Volume 2, Number 7

Irish Philatelic Newsletter

Volume 2, Number 7                                                                                                                                 July, 2000

A periodic publication for the members of the Éire Philatelic Association, the Irish Airmail Society, the Irish Philatelic Circle and the Forschungs-und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Irland e.V. The newsletter will be e-mailed to all interested members.


Published and edited by Michael Connolly
  IMP Notes 


New IMP slogan - IMP 17
Maurice Barrett
maurice.barrett@ie.pwcglobal.com


A new IMP slogan came into use on 22 May 2000 at both Dublin and Portlaoise and is worded: GUARANTEED / NEXT DAY / DELIVERY / SWIFTPOST with a map of Ireland and what appears to be a globe all inside a border. The earliest two examples that have been seen are dated 22 May 2000 and are from machine 1, DMC and
machine 2, PMC. These slogans have been numbered IMP 17 (D) and IMP 17 (P). This slogan replaced IMP 7 which was in use for the previous two months or so at both
locations.

This new slogan is illustrated below.

                           IMP 17 (D) and IMP 17 (P) Swiftpost used on 22 May 2000



New IMP slogan - IMP 18
Maurice Barrett
maurice.barrett@ie.pwcglobal.com

I can report a new IMP slogan from both Dublin and Portlaoise. It is worded THE EURO / IS COMING / 1 JAN 2002  with the euro symbol all inside a border. All examples that I have seen are dated 23 June 2000 and are from machines 1 and 2, DMC and machine 2, PMC. I have numbered the slogans IMP 18 (D) and IMP 18 (P).

The Portlaoise slogan that I have seen was on an envelope posted in Dublin so the transfer of mail from Dublin to Portlaoise for processing is obviously still continuing.



IMPs @ DMC
Maurice Barrett
maurice.barrett@ie.pwcglobal.com

The IMP slogan from machine 1 at the DMC has not printed the time in the town name portion of the slogan on or since 29 June 2000. The time continues to appear in all the machine 2 slogans at in the PMC slogans. THE DONEGAL RAILWAY HERITAGE TOUR
David Brennan
BRENNAN704@aol.com


For those of you interested in Railway Letter stamps and Irish railways, check out this website and consider this tour. Martin was very helpful to Joe Foley, Barney Clancy and myself when we went to Donegal last fall.

Dave


Greetings from Donegal! Hope you are well. Just a quick e-mail to let you know that I have put together the very first Donegal Railway Heritage Tour 1-3 September 2000.  The tour will take in Donegal Town, Fintown and Derry - for more details visit our web site www.timeouttours.com

If you are interested in going let me know - if not could I ask you to spread the word!  Also if you have any contacts/railway magazines etc. that would be interested by all means let me know.  In any case it would be good to hear your feedback on the tour. 

Regards
Martin

Time Out Tours
Oakfield Demesne, Raphoe, Co. Donegal, Ireland.
T +353 (0)74 44033 
F +353 (0)74 45382 
E-mail info@timeouttours.com
Visit our web site at www.timeouttours.com

CRASH COVER BOOK
Ken Sanford
KAEROPHIL@cs.com


I am writing a book on the air crash covers of Imperial Airways, and would appreciate it if members can assist by sending any of the following items:

1. Copies of newspaper clippings on Imperial crashes.
2. Photographs of Imperial aircraft, either before or after the crash (original photographs will be returned).
3. Copies of crash reports.
4. Good photocopies of covers, especially those with cachet or label varieties not listed by Nierinck.
5. Copies of air mail etiquettes, baggage labels, advertising labels, timetables, etc., which will be used to dress up the book.
6. Complete names of the pilots and crew members involved with Imperial crashes and accidents.

Copies of items should be made on a Canon (or similar) color photocopying machine, set on black & white mode.

I will reimburse all photocopying and postage expenses.

Kendall C. Sanford
12 Chemin des Tuilots
CH-1293 Bellevue (GE)
Switzerland

New variety??
Iben Olsen
iben.olsen@adr.dk


I have attached a file and will ask if I have been lucky enough to have found a genuine variety of  the 10 p. Great Crested Grebe "Colour Missing".  I have shown the normal stamp too. On the "variety-stamp" the brown colour only appears on the little bird in the background. It does not look like chemicals have been used or other attempt to remove the colour.

Perhaps similar copies have been found?  I will be very glad to hear from you.

Yours

Iben Olsen, Denmark

Irish Postal History
Vincent McDermott 
vincentmcd@hotmail.com

Would appreciate your help in the following matter.  I am a student of postal history and have studied and collected GB pre-stamp for many years.  My interests are Instructional charge marks, and in particular Inspector Stars and the Crown markings.  I have the County Cats and others by M. Wilcox and B. Jay, etc., but the information on Irish markings is very sparse.  Is there any more detailed info in papers of Irish study groups?  Should I join an Irish society ?  I am not a dealer, just an ordinary collector looking to better my efforts on GB postal history and improve my collection.  I am a member of the Scottish P.H.Society and the Huntingdonshire PS.  Any help or information you can give would be greatly appreciated. 

Sincerely.
Vincent McDermott.

New Dublin Shop
James O'Brien
JJJOBrien@aol.com


I thought you (and your colleagues) might be interested to know that I am opening a retail shop in Dublin.  I will be based in a small shop unit at Blackrock weekend market and will stock specialist Irish material, including postal history.

The shop is within 2 minutes walking distance from the suburban rail station in Blackrock on the southside of Dublin (20 minutes from city centre).  I will be bringing new stock from London on a regular basis (first weekend of every month) and I look forward to meeting old and new customers there.

If any of your US colleagues are thinking about visiting Stampa in November, you might also diary a short visit to my new shop.  I open as follows :-

Friday : 12.30 pm - 2.30 pm
Saturday : 11.00 am - 5.30 pm
Sunday : 11.00 am - 5.30 pm

Kind regards

James O'Brien
IPTA

The Town Sub-office Numbers of Cork
Stan Challis
challis@guernsey.net


Earlier this year the editor was kind enough to include a listing of the numbers found in the registration labels of the Dublin sub offices. I am pleased to report that I have had response from several collectors on this subject and as a result have acquired additional information which I will report in the newsletter in due course.  I would however welcome further reports.  So, if readers do have registered envelopes from the Dublin sub offices (and almost all of you surely have one or two at least!), please check the office numbers in the labels, check the listing in the April newsletter and tell me what you have, please.

A draft list for Dublin having been completed, it was time to look at Cork.  An initial listing is attached; much shorter than that for Dublin, but despite the relative absence of material in my own collection, it does in its way do much to confirm the system employed for issuing the office numbers.  Just in case anyone is still confused by office numbers, a quick word of explanation (skip a few lines if you already know).  Registration labels from town sub offices (not the town Head Office) will have two numbers on them. The first after the town name is the office number of the sub office at which the item was registered, the second is the serial number from that individual office.   This is the number for the town sub office at Blackpool (Linn Dubh) Cork and all items posted at this office will show the number 10.  The item is serial number 170.  Sets of labels for the town sub offices usually ran up to 250 (50 at rural offices and higher at Head Offices).  In theory this was about a fortnight to a months supply, thus it is possible to find other items with a Corcaigh 10 / 170 label, but, supposedly if the system worked, not used on the same day.  The system was introduced in (I think) 1907 and ended in October 1995.

The Cork list confirms that when the numbers were first allocated in 1907, it was seemingly done at random to offices open at that time.  There were 16 sub offices extant at that date and if we look at the list we see that the office numbers were not allocated in alphabetical order, order of date of opening or even town centre first, then suburbs, Grand Parade (8) coming after Barrackton (5) and St Luke�s (6) both some way distant from the Head Office.

Western Road office was opened in 1910 and thus received the next number in sequence (17); Blarney Street and Douglas Road both followed in 1913 and were given 18 and 19, Douglas Road being replaced by Douglas Road South in the 1970s.  The list follows through logically until 28 was seemingly issued in 1949 (to Farranree�s predecessor at Spangle Hill � can anyone confirm this?).

At that date it seems that label series were perhaps for the first time allocated to individual major users in Cork as we have an example of serials 33 and 36 being used from government offices.  New offices followed from the 1960s (Ballyphehane) and the highest number recorded in that for Knocknaheeny (45) opened in 1984.

Could I ask readers once again to check their collections and report what they might have to me.  I am especially interested in examples pre 1922 having nothing in my own collection.

The same system was applied at other towns with sub offices. I shall try and prepare listings for Limerick, Waterford and Galway later in the year.  I believe the same system operated in Belfast (and other cities in Britain) until the 1960s.  If anyone has information on Northern Ireland town sub offices that too would be especially appreciated, the material being considerably harder to find.  Good hunting!
 

CORK TSO Numbers as appearing in Registration Labels                         Office Date office opened Dates reported/ seen   Comment             1 Shandon Str   1976-92   assume replaced Buttermarket 2 North Main Str 1850 1973-89     3 Gt Georges Str/ Washington Str 1885 1963-89     4 King Str/MacCurtain Str 1887 1932-90     5 Barrackton 1873 1946-89     6 St Luke's 1855 1944-89     7 Bandon Rd 1884 1978-89     8 Grand Parade 1851 1949-89     9 Glanmire Rd 1855 1982     10 Blackpool 1850 1976-90     11 Capwell 1883 1969-79     12 Sunday's Well 1852 1977-89     13 College Rd 1904 1970-78     14 St Finbarr's 1899 1931     15 Albert Rd 1899 1973-89     16 Ballintemple reop 1895 1971-89     17 Western Rd by 1910 1971-89     18 Blarney Str 1913 1978-89     19 Douglas Road South 1976 1980   assume replaced Douglas Rd open 1913 20 Blackrock 1831 prev rural 1981-89     21 High St by 1931 1977-82     22 Friars Rd 1932 1981     23 Dennehy's Cross by early 1936 1965-89     24 Montenotte Park 1936 1983     25         ?Boreenamana Rd open 1939 26 Gurranebraher 1948 1984-92     27 Bishopstown 1948 1982-89     28 Farrranree 1964 1977-90   was Spangle Hill open 1949 29           30           31           32           33 (Government Dept - An Cigire Canach)   1984   posted at Capwell 34           35           36 Cork Tax Office       reported by MMcN 37 Ballyphehane 1953 1975-89     38 Mayfield 1953 1980-89     39           40 Pouladuff Rd 1969 1972-89   assume previously used at Pearse Rd 41 Fair Hill 1961 1983     42           43 Ballinlough 1964 1981-89     44           45 Knocknaheeny 1984 1988-89     46           47           48           49           50           Recent Show Awards
Michael Connolly


Joseph E. Foley, "Ireland - Dog License Stamps", Gold medal at WESTPEX in April, also American Revenue Association Gold

Patricia Stillwell Walker, "Ireland: Postal History 1661 to the 1890s", Grand Prix National award at Stamp Show 2000, London, in May

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