Volume 2, Number 12

Irish Philatelic Newsletter

Volume 2, Number 12                                                                                                           December, 2000

A periodic publication for the members of the Éire Philatelic Association, the Irish Airmail Society, the Irish Philatelic Circle and the Forschungs-und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Irland e.V. The newsletter will be e-mailed to all interested members.

Published and edited by Michael Connolly
 

IMP Notes 

IMP 11 – POST EARLY / FOR CHRISTMAS / =POST 
Maurice Barrett
maurice.barrett@ie.pwcglobal.com

Last year’s IMP slogan 11 worded: POST EARLY / FOR CHRISTMAS / =POST within a boxed frame was put back into use at the DMC on and from 7 December 2000 – machines 1 and 2, and at the PMC on and from 8 December 2000 – machines 1 and 2.

Regards,

MAURICE BARRETT

IMP 21 – BUDGET TRAVEL / SUMMER SALE STARTS 4 JAN
Maurice Barrett
maurice.barrett@ie.pwcglobal.com

A new IMP slogan has been seen at PMC, machine 2 on 15 December 2000 and DMC, machine 1 and 2 on 15 December 2000. It is worded BUDGET TRAVEL / SUMMER SALE STARTS 4 JAN and has the Budget Travel logo of the sun and a sun umbrella. My thanks to Brian Warren for the scanned illustration of this IMP slogan.

Regards,

MAURICE BARRETT

Photos of Post Offices
Michael Connolly

I heard from Stan Challis a while back and he mentioned having a couple of photos of Post Offices which he would eventually send to me.  He also asked whether any other readers had such pictures.  As a matter of fact, he phrased it “Do we know if other readers are as stupid as me to take a picture of every post office they pass?”

I’d like to hear from any readers who have pictures of Irish post offices, whether the pictures were taken by themselves or by others.   Perhaps some of you have in your collections pictures from the distant past.  I know I have a few such pictures, both views of the post office facades and shots taken inside the post offices.

Mike Connolly

Auction Action

FAI Auction 73
Klaus Stange
StangeFAI@aol.com

For members of the FAI, have a look at our homepage http://members.aol.com/irlandphil/fai.htm  where you will find the new auction list. 

Closing date: 15 January 2001.

Éire Philatelic Association 
Joe Foley 
JFoley4197@aol.com 

PRICES REALIZED – AUCTION #122
                         (Lots not listed were not sold)
28
$11.00 
229
$7.50
474
$20.00
29
6.50
230
7.00
475
9.00
30
3.75
231
5.50
476
16.00
31
2.75
232
8.50
477
18.00
32
3.25
233
6.00
478
27.50
33
3.75
239
2.00
479
11.00
34
2.25
241
4.75
481
1.50
35
11.00
242
3.00
482
2.00
36
10.00
245
4.00
484
5.00
37
7.50
251
1.00
485
1.50
40
2.75
252
1.00
486
4.25
42
8.00
253
1.00
487
7.50
43
8.00
254
1.00
489
2.00
49
42.50
257
1.00
491
2.50
50
11.00
258
1.00
493
1.00
51
5.50
261
1.00
495
1.00
52
12.00
270
1.00
498
0.50
53
1.25
276
1.50
500
0.75
54
55.00
280
1.00
502
1.00
55
3.25
281
1.25
503
2.50
56
5.50
282
2.25
504
1.00
57
7.00
283
1.00
505
1.00
58
8.50
284
1.00
506
1.50
59
2.00
286
1.25.
507
1.00
60
1.00
288
11.00
508
3.00
61
8.50
289
1.25
509
3.00
62
80.00
291
1.00
510
3.25
63
9.50
292
1.25
511
2.00
64 to 67
Withdrawn
293
1.25
514
16.00
69
2.75
295
1.25
515
13.00
70
4.25
296
2.25
516
20.00
72
16.00
301
1.25
517
7.50
74
15.00
307
2.25
518
7.00
75
13.00
309
1.00
521
19.00
77
13.00
310
1.00
523
0.75
78
50.00
312
6.00
524
11.00
79
225.00
313
2.25
529
.0.75
83
19.00
316
1.00
531
12.00
84
37.50
317
1.00
533
11.00
85
55.00
318
1.00
534
42.50
86
16.00
321
1.00
535
8.50
87
55.00
322
1.00
536
27.50
88
55.00
323
1.00
537
13.00
91
21.00
324
1.25
538
4.25
92
1.75
325
1.00
539
4.25
94
7.00
329
1.00
540
2.25
100
7.50
330
1.00
541
2.25
101
6.50
331
1.00
542
2.00
102
11.00
333
2.00
543
2.25
103
55.00
335
1.00
544
3.75
104
45.00
336
1.25
545
4.25
107
4.25
337
1.75
546
5.50
110
4.25
338
1.00
547
3.50
112
1.50
339
1.00
548
4.75
114
11.00
340
1.00
549
9.00
115
1.25
341
1.00
550
5.50
120
2.00
342
1.75
551
5.50
121
7.50
353
0.75
552
1.50
123
7.50
379
1.00
553
1.50
124
2.00
385
1.75
554
1.00
129
11.00
386
1.00
556
0.75
131
45.00
387
1.00
557
0.75
133
3.50
388
1.50
558
0.75
134
1.00
389
1.25
559
0.75
135
1.00
390
1.75
560
0.75
137
9.00
391
1.00
561
0.75
138
6.00
392
1.50
562
0.75
139
8.50
393
1.00
563
4.75
141
9.00
394
1.00
564
4.50
144
25.00
409
1.25
565
7.50
146
4.25
410
1.25
566
9.00
148
1.75
411
1.00
567
4.00
155
42.50
412
0.50
568
4.00
157
22.00
419
1.25
569
4.00
159
22.00
420
1.25
570
4.00
163
15.00
422
0.50
571
4.00
165
8.00
423
1.25
572
4.25
167
16.00
426
0.75
573
4.50
169
6.00
427
0.75
574
5.00
170
5.50
428
0.75
576
1.75
171
21.00
429
0.75
577
1.00
172
17.00
430&31
1.50
578
2.75
175
18.00
432
0.50
579
3.00
177
6.00
433
1.25
580
3.25
181
5.50
434
1.25
581
1.00
183
5.50
438
0.50
582
3.00
184
5.50
441
0.50
584
2.75
185
7.50
442
1.00
585
3.00
187
3.25
443
0.50
586
3.00
190
6.50
444
1.25
587
3.25
191
21.00
446
0.75
589
1.00
192
16.00
447
0.75
590
1.00
196
4.75
449
1.00
591
1.00
197
9.00
455
0.75
592
2.75
198
70.00
456
1.00
593
2.25
199
8.50
457
1.25
594
2.25
200
7.00
458
1.25
595
2.00
201
12.00
459
1.25
596
2.00
206
8.00
462
1.00
597
2.00
208
10.00
465
11.00
598
1.25
216
16.00
466
3.25
599
1.25
217
5.50
467
6.00
600
1.00
218
5.00
468
0.25
601
1.25
219
16.00
469
11.00
602
1.00
225
11.00
470
27.50
603
1.00
226
7.00
471
12.00
604
1,725.00
227
16.00
472
11.00
228
5.50
473
21.00

Note: some very low bids were not considered.

Those Registration Labels
Stan Challis
challis@guernsey.net

I must begin by thanking all those who have sent me additional information on the Dublin and Cork registered labels; the list are building nicely.  FAI have published an early version of the Dublin list in their ?October edition.  I have warned them that a lot of new information has come to hand and there should be a fuller story available in due course – readers please keep sending me those reports.  I suspect they would also like to publish the Cork list so I would welcome further reports from that city as well.

That leaves us Northern Ireland (which I shall leave for now – very difficult) and the rest of the Republic to do.   This is where I need the readers help.  If we thought that Dublin and Cork sub offices are hard to find, you should try the sub offices from other towns!   Please let me know what you have everyone.

In the meantime I have started looking at Blackrock and Dun Laoghaire which to all intents are suburban Dublin.  The table at the end of this report comprises my initial jottings, is not meant to be comprehensive and we must
be able to come up with something better in fullness of time.

I comment as follows –

Blackrock appears to have used up labels from offices 9 to 11 (whichever they were) at the main office from about 1992 onwards.  Alternatively Carraig Dubh datestamps were used at the sub offices. Can anyone help?

Presumably Blackrock 2 was at either Glenomena or Williamstown.

Whatever happened to Dun Laoghaire sub offices 7 and 8?

Astute readers will note

a)    I have found nothing pre 1940s

b)    the sequence does not follow the date of opening (after the introduction of the labels in c1906) as was the case most markedly in Cork.

That leads me to believe that initially the sub offices may not have been numbered and the system only came into force perhaps in the 1930s.  Does anyone know?  It may not have been policy to number sub offices outside the
major cities originally in that right into the 1990s Pearse Street TSO Mullingar was using labels reading ‘Pearse Street Mullingar’ without office number.   More of that to follow when I do the list for the other towns.

All reports on those will be welcome; I would hope to have a draft listing ready by early in the New Year, so in the interim ‘Happy Festivities to All!’.

Best wishes

Stan Challis
Guernsey
 

REGISTRATION LABELS
THE SMALLER TOWNS – REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
 
Office
Date office opened
Dates reported/ seen
Comment
BLACKROCK
1
Monkstown
1843
1943-92
under Blackrock from c1903
3
Deans Grange
1925
1980-93
 
4
Newtownpark
1949
1983-91
also seen 1992-93 with Carraig Dubh cds
5
Booterstown
1774
1981
closed 1857-65. Under Blackrock from c1918. Closed 1985
6
Sydney Terrace
1962
1989
closed 1989
7
Stillorgan
1810
1979-92
under Blackrock from c1930
8
Mount Merrion
1940
1975-87
Mount Merrion in 1949
 
Glenomena
1901
 
closed 1954
 
Upper Trees Road
1952
 
closed 1975
 
Williamstown
1914
 
closed 1980
 
Woodbine Park
1955
 
 
9
?
 
1992-95
Carraig Dubh cds
10
?
 
1995
Carraig Dubh cds
11
?
 
1992
Carraig Dubh cds
DUN LAOGHAIRE
1
Upper George’s Str
1914
1954-94
closed by Dec 1999
2
Lower George’s Str
1879
1979-94
 
3
Glasthule
1882
1977-94
opened as Albert Road, later sandycove; renamed 1957
4
Cumberland Str
1895
1978-84
closed 1987
5
Sallynoggin
1912
1980-94
 
6
Oliver Plukett Road
1950
1982-94
 
9
Rochestown Av
1977
1979-83
 
 
Stoneview
1872
 
closed c1910
Re: A Call for Articles
Michael Connolly

In the November 2000 issue, Charles Snee wrote “I ask the readership to offer any suggestions as to good sources of Irish stamps, literature dealing with Irish philately, names of specialists, etc.”  I responded to his request for
information at some length and figured I would share my thoughts with you.

Good sources of Irish stamps would include Padraig O’Shea of Raven Stamps; David MacDonnell of MacDonnell Whyte Ltd, 102 Lienster Road, Dublin 6, Ireland;  Ian Whyte, 30 Marlborough Street, Dublin 1, Ireland (auctions only); Heinz Grunz, Newhamstr. 14, 67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany; Michael Giffney, P.O.Box 1096, Dublin 1, Ireland (kiloware); Cathedral Stamps, 78 Marlborough Street, Dublin 6, Ireland;  James O’Brien;  Ireland Stamps (Rathgar Stamps).  I have dealt with most of these dealers at one time or another.

Literature dealing with Irish philately is plentiful.  The FAI (Forschungs-und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Irland e.V.) has a web page devoted to the literature relating to Ireland.  This includes the journals of the Irish societies, specialized catalogs, and a large variety of books on the stamps and postal history. 

Sources for such literature include the ÉPA, the FAI, and literature dealers such as James Bendon, Phil Bansner, J. Barefoot, Walter Potts, Leonard Hartmann. 

As to names of specialists, I assume you mean individuals who are considered expert in particular areas of Irish philately, such as the overprints or postal stationary.  There are many very knowledgeable collectors, some of whom have written for the society journals and have written specialized books.  Most of these specialists are members of the Irish societies and subscribers to the Newsletter, so any queries in the Newsletter are likely to elicit responses from one or more of them.

Do you, dear readers, have your own list of dealers in Irish stamps and literature?  Let us know!
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